Brazil-Netherlands Recap

Sad and disappointing match. If this really is Kaka's last world cup, I'm sorry it had to end on such a note. I really thought everything was going well when Robinho scored in the first ten minutes, but then… what the hell happened, Brazil?? What happened in the second half?! They completely lost composure and sloppiness ensued.

Melo… I have no words for that kid. Nothing.

Thank you for the recap. In a downer right now, not even willing to watch the Uruguay v. Ghana game. Lots of games in this world cup, disappointingly, have been full of sloppy playing and just dumb mistakes all around.

Also, I'd like to add, that as a huge Brazil fan, I recognize our loss and I'm willing to move on. But I really do not appreciate it when Dutch fans come over to step on us when we are down. Like, it's really not necessary.

holland played so ugly…they used a weak referee to make things happen for them…good job!

You're saying holland played ugly? The referee was definitly on Brazil's side. They tried to literally take out Robben by trying to hit his weak leg. It's only good that Melo got red for that. I bet that the Brazilian coach told the players: Aim for Robben's weak leg.
It's great that Holland is going to the semis!

Dutch people usually dont wanna 'step on you', but when you say things like “Fifa payed the refs to make Holland win” it probably insites it.

Why is Holland so happy about this? becuase Brazil are SUCH a great team. It's a complement when a team beats you and are truly over the moon. I feel bad that you guys will never know what it's like to enter a world cup match as heavy underdogs, and then take the victory… but I guess that's the price of being the best throughout history, which brazil are.

That said, I believe Holland deserve the world cup if they get it this year, their first star on the jersey, that will be truly beautiful.

I never said anything like FIFA played the refs to make Holland win… Look, just because some people said that, does not mean that others did. It's unfair towards other fans. Congratulations, Netherlands, though – you guys did do what a better team should do: stay composed, etc. But on the other hand, if we did win against you guys I wouldn't find it nice or even warranted to go over to the Netherlands side and be like, hah, you guys lost and gloat.

Melo case was the aftermath!…Dutch keep diving at the start of the 2nd half and referee encouraged them and keep interrupting the game…it was definitely a big help…

I agree 100%, that was a horrible match in terms of arbitration.

AussieHolland, you are so right.
Holland has been so close to being champions several times before, so I really hope you will make it now, by beating Germany in the final.

Nobody nows who played ugly in a years time. Brazil fucked us over in '98, now they didn't play good enough to win. The ref was on Brazils site the whole game.
In the first 5 min he should have given two people from Brazil yellow. So we will see you again in 4 years.

I can't believe that Brazilian fans are actually whining about Melo's red card. Your team choked and that why they lost. Get over it!

Go home Dunga…

After Brazil fought so hard to win, now it's just a big disappointment! Why and why did it have to end so soon? Why did Michel Bastos, Juan, and Felipe Melo lose their temper in such an important moment? Why? Brazil had most of the corner-kicks, yet they could not capitalize on that: Why? We accepted the win of Holland; they played hard, but it was so sloppy —too many fouls on Brazil and yet they got away with it! Que lastima, Brazil…que lastima, Brazil…

The build up of the “choking” is what we are focusing on. Melo's offense was a result of the referee calling every little thing into a foul. Notably the first goal came from a set piece as a result of those petty fouls (rather dives).

I guess it's true when people say the little things matter. Those little things added up big time.

i hope Holland win aswell but i dont think it will be against germany in the final rather Argentina.

everybody can see that brasil lost temper, just like what kaka did in the last game with his elbow against Chile. in my opinion not such a great team…

or how about the 2 blatant fouls in the box on kaka which should of resulted in penalty kicks. go back to your blog if u want to gloat.

the ref was a joke and melo was worse. also surprised i havent heard much about dani alves and his ball hogging. gave up so many chances. whyyyyyyyyyyyyy did elano have to be injured ; ( and why couldnt melo stay injured haha

brasil played ugly sorry to say and im not stepping over you but realy man so rude how the guys behave stepping on others legs and against Chile here a push there an elbow…
realy wtf

haha that will teach you Brazilians, thinking you're superior to Europeans. But you know what? the quiet humble European players are the ones getting the job done!

Neither team stood/stand a chance to win the Cup… period.

nothing to say Brasil played dirty just like I sad in my other post kicking against the Dutchs elbow against Chile (yes Kaka) like they did in 1974
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTs2iwMqVMg&feat...
watch 2:50 and 4:18.

wow. melo actually blamed the match official for his red card? it's all on camera:
http://www.totalfootballmadness.com/2010/07/03/...

There is comparison in class and quality between Brazil and Netherlands. Brazil outclassed them in the 1st half where the score should have been 3-0 although the “big” players of Netherlands were all playing around their box. I don't think anyone would have put a single bet in half time have seen the 1st half.

But football is unpredictable game and a rare mistake allowed Netherlands to equalize. Otherwise they had no luck to score because they couldn't create chances.

However, I need to give credit to Netherlands because they went for it after 1-1 while Brazil got nervous without reason.

He should NEVER play for Brazil again!

Hell yeah. The brazilian team made so many fouls on robben. Maybe 1 was overreacted by Robben but hey, it's soccer? Red card was deserved. Match for holland was deserved

you only scored because of the mistake otherwise there would have been no goal for Holland…It is obvious that Brazil is another class team either you admit it or not. But Holland fought after the 1-1

as for see you in 4 years…let's see you sooner if you can win your first world cup compared to 5 that Brazil has…lol

Look closer. The brazilian team where the ones trying to get the referee in their advance all the time. If brazil is so fucking great why didn't they score? Oh now it's the referees fault? If you make so many fouls on robben you're asking for it. Viva Hollandia!

they are just jealous because they are trying to get their 1st WC compared to 5…lol Good Luck Holland

I think you're referring to the Cote D'Ivoire incident, but that wasn't an elbow anyway. You can analyse that game if you want, you'd notice Cote D'Ivoire was hitting on our players far more often and the referee didn't call anything. Hence why Elano is still injured.

I think he's complaining more about the fact that the official kept calling non-existent fouls which led up to his frustration.

Wait.. The goal of brazil wasn't a mistake of the dutch team..? :/

No offense to Brazilian fans in any way. I didn't expect this would happen but we won. Listen to the brazilian players, even they admit we deserved to win after the second half.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/columns/...

This article says it all; Felipe Melo's ineptitude, Dunga's selection etc

Not really. An own goal is a blatant mistake. The Brazil goal which made it 1-0 was simply the other team taking advantage of your poor positioning. Otherwise you can argue that every goal is a “mistake” based on poor positioning, weak defending, etc.

I'll watch a replay of the game and I'll get back to you. But from what I saw, the referee kept ruining the flow of the game, hence why Brazil couldn't score.

Don't be sad, you'll have 4 more years to practice and be stronger in the next world cup at home soil. We're all for the Brazil team for the next world cup, with exciting traditional football artistry and skills. Train harder and you'll make it, don't be too over confident!!!

O.k. this really was a devastating loss but

O.K. this really was a devastating loss but i think that all of us brazilian fans should hold our heads up and prepare for the next world cup. This starts with dumping out the oldies and bringing in the new players and let me tell u i think that for a lot of these players this would have been their last world cup bcuz this team was old and not good enough. So first of all i would like to see Leonardo as the coach bcuz he plays very quick attacking and entertaining futbol and he's good with fast players too. Next i would like 2 see the old 5-2-1-2 a.k.a 3-4-3 lineup and i would also like to see the following players in our team bcuz if they are there Brazil will win for sure.
Goalie: Diego Alves- Not error prone and a good young keeper with good reactions
3 Center Defenders: Thiago Silva/ David Luiz/ Miranda- Just stop and imagine that defense. I mean with those 3 as your center defenders that would be impossible to score on them.
Right Wing Back: Dani Alves or Maicon bcuz both can attack and defend very well.
Left Wing Back: Marcelo- Quick and skill full and plays on a top class club team
Centre Mid: Ramires
Attacking mids: Ganso and Ronaldinho as a sub for him
Forwards: Neymar and Pato with Robinho and Douglas Costa as subs. OMG that would be such a great team and with home field advantage they would be unstoppable so my bet is for Brazil in the 2014 world cup plus there will also be many new players that we have never heard of. So add home field advantage on top of that and Brazil for 2014!!!!!!!! Please tell me what u think.

Unfortunately BRAZIL played the most UGLY PHYSICAL Football in the 2nd Half, the world has ever seen. Especially after conceding the Goal they went NUTS. Poor Robben and other were stumpped by teh BRAZILLAINS. SHAME.

The foul committed by the MELO was one of the ugliest foul in WC 2010

You Brazilian Fans do it all the time

Is time to stop think just brazilian is a good team in the world …this is ridiculous …BRAZIL WAS A GOOD TEAM AND HAD BEST PLAYERS IN THE PAST …ITS OVER !!! We dont have more good players , so bye Brazil for the world cup now and next one …

Gotta love Over-reaction. gotta love the built in hate for Brasil, all let go from people you wouldn't of thought hate Brasil. Gotta love how “opinionated” fans think their opinion counts when they probably JUST started following Brasil.

smh. So much negativity that has been brought outside the futebol aspect of the game…

with that said…Mano Menezes for 2014 B-)

i know one thing that dunga told his players, and re-watch the game if you don't believe me, you'll see it in the first minute. Dunga told his players to run up and attack the dutch from behind. Robinho and company sprinted up to the midfielders van Bommel and De Jong mainly, and chopped at the feet of the dutch from behind. I'm not saying this in an unsportsman-like way – just an observation that I thought was interesting

the first case of it happens at 0:21 seconds into the game – Robinho going for van Bommel

are you high…lets not get into desparation…don't forget 2014..we host it…and not to mention the hundreds of players back home with the potential to be world class stars…Neymar and Ganso…Hernanes and Sandro…Toloi and Mario Fernandes…etc.

Congratulations to Holland! I am not sure they deserved it. It was a strange game. It should have been all over in the 1st half. I was shocked at how Brazil fell apart in the 2nd half. This is not the 1st time though in history of WCs as at times Brazil is its worst enemy (the same can be said about the Dutch). The self-destruct button was completely pressed after the 1st goal which was surprising because Dunga's team was supposed to be unnerving, determined & disciplined. It really hurts right now, i have not slept since the game finished at 1:30am. It is 3:30pm now where i live. Good luck to Holland, maybe this time they deserve the break after the 70s heartbreaks. This Dutch team reminds me of those Italy teams that did just enough in games to become champion.

Some people here talking about Dutch diving. how about Brazilian? Both teams played a very physical game and the players dive whenever they were pushed a little bit. You want a yellow for every foul like that? Do you know how many fouls Bastos commit in this game? If u were the referee, this game would be a disaster with 5,6 red cards. Re-watch the game like James suggests.

Dejong got a yellow for mildly shoving Robinho – yet, with all those cutting down of Robben and Kuyt and Van Persie, not even fouls. And Lucio handballed. But no Yellow or PK. All that dirty abuse and harrassment by Robinho, no yellow or warning either.
Brasil had it easy. It took up to 9 dirty tackles on Robben before the ref gave a yellow. Then a red on Melo for violence. Dont know why Brazilians are proud of their football. Netherlands were calm and quietly determined. The Brazilians went crazy and bonkers like monkeys, really,… no joke, they panicked and self imploded with total frustrations. And I thought top teams do not easily implode or get violently frustrated. Brazil totally shamed their football tradition and fair play today.

Melo's comments:

“Robben kept up playing. If I meant to hurt him, he would have left the pitch. I have enough strength to break his leg. Every time he was touched he would jump and roll over on the floor. I just wanted to get the ball and start our counter-attack.”

Wow, this is the so called “beautiful football” that brasil is proud of? stomping and saying he could have broken Robben's legs if he wanted to? i mean, all teams are guilty of diving including Robinho, Fabiano (who had a couple of handballs too that were not punished) and even friggin Lucio (also a handball, but was overlooked by referee) too. does that mean you must let your frustration out by stomping or kicking a guy's leg when he is already down and the play is already stopped??

brasil – your beautiful football equals to thug football. this is the kind of slum street football that has brought disgrace to your tradition. you already could not prevent Holland's clean come back, and you could not live to your billing as the world's unbeatable best, but to say after the match such things is beyond anybody's sympathy and understanding…

Shame on Melo and Brasil and that Robinho who's only good for harassing the ref and downed opponents. Brasil – choose new players who can play and not resort to harrassing and stomping. As for Kaka – he was totally bad… what a shock. maybe if Robinho have shut his mouth, he could have more time to focus on the game, no?

OMG what i hear from anti dutch and anti Brasil.
Common Brasil is a great team and so is the dutch.
What i cant immagine was that most of the world was convinced Brasil should win easily.
Everyone knows that the Netherlands have a great team.
And lets be real. In a knockout stage everyone can loose by bad referee's a bad tackle a penalty or just like both teams did july 2nd play a bad half.
Congrats to The orange team. and better luck next time Brasil.

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The sad thing is that we lost to a team that didn't really do much to win. With Brazil in command, our own player handed the game to the Dutch, first by scoring an own goal completely out of the blue and then by getting a silly red card.

We only got ourselves to blame for not taking our chances and not finishing the game off in the first half.

exactly. Up to this point Holland was just defending without really creating any chances…

Does anybody here betted for Holland to win this game during the half time? I don't believe so. Brazil was really confident, keeping the ball more time, passing excellently, creating chances and defending easily.

But it was one of these games where luck can actually determine the result and it can happen in the knockout stages. There are many examples around…

Brazil has won the wk 5 times and the Netherlands not even once. Ever considered that Brazil has over 160 million residents compared to 16 million people in the Netherlands?
For a country as minuscule as the Netherlands we have the most incredible players getting to the semi finals is a remarkable achievement.

I am Jamaican but a big Brazillean fan since watching my first WC in 1982. I am extremely disappointed and hurt that Brazil lost. I think that Dunga has supressed the natural attacking flair that Brazil is renowned for. Argentina is playing with this flair and winning with an inferior GK and defense to Brazil. There are too many creative talent in Brazil for them to loose the WC. I believe with the right offense minded coach and selection of players Brazil will not only win in 2014 but soundly destroy all opponents(they have the potential)

To be honest, i didnt think we dutchies stood a chance. And my pre assumptions stood ground after watching the first half. I was one of he few dutch people who predicted a win by Brasil. The dutch offense is class A when in good form. At this moment Robben came back from a heavy injury and van Persie is playing horribly as everyone can see. I had no doubt Brasil wouldnt have issues unless van Marwijk would bring in a guy with depth like Elia.
The dutch defense besides the keeper is our biggest weakness as u can see during the first goal.
If u kept your heads after the lucky 1-1 u would still be the team most likely to win the match.

Brazil is superior to Europeans you ignoramus.Before you post dumb comments be well informed. They are 5 times world champions and the only country to win on European soil. With the vast amount of talent there, they will be world champions in 2014. No European country has such a rich football history and talent.

Agreed, kevin. But did you see how many fouls Van Bommel committed??? He didn't even get a yellow, but fouled through out the game fell on the ground and rolled in excruciating pain when someone touched his shoulder etc. The game wasn't pretty. It was evenly contested sure.

True…brasil has such a rich history….I rather reign today though….dream on

Let me first thank Duvel & others for the wonderful, expert & professional comments….I was sad and dejected to see the second half play……there was no passing movement or rhytum…most of the end passes were either mispasses or sent to a player without space…or unneccessarily lost possession…..they played without space or width…..whenever the ball reached near the penalty box, it looked as if our players were in the midst of a big big crowd..there was no tactical game plan……it appeared that after the first goal by Holland, our players got panic..lost maturity & composure and ran out of ideas.
In the second half Melo, Dani alves, Kaka, Robinho, Fabiano, maicon, Bastos all of them seemed not to have any idea as to what to do, how to create an opening,…even the trademark runs of lusio were missing,,…..what our team lacked in such situation was good dribblers, who could have easily cut into the box & went behind the defenders…and players with calm & composed mind and who did not panic. Nilmar or Gilberto could bring no composure. After the dutch goal, our team looked to be in too much hurry & burried all ideas & moves.

netherlands team has got personality they are the MAN.they are just EXCEPTIONAL

Why a team like Brazil had failed to continue? This hurt so much. Brazil need a more mature squad; I understand they must have hundreds if not thousands of Superstar footballers they can select from; why does it have to be an immature squad that have quick tempers and a coach who cannot make sound jugments for the team? Why and why? From many views, this is not the Brazil that I once knew. Time will not really heal this loss. Que lastima, Brasil…que lastima, Brasil…

watching the Arg-Germany game. still don't think Maradona is a good coach regardless of the result. I pick Germany to upset them

Hopefully our luck improves in 4 years time.

What this advocates for is to let the two teams go at it and not make so many calls to ruin the flow of the game.

Brazil has done so much for the popularity of soccer! It's not wise to rejoice when they are not there. If you really like soccer, you ought to like Brazil; they represent the Tree and you cannot like the fruits without liking the Tree!

I think that's called “trying to take the ball”. A little flick on the back of your leg will not make a player unbalanced enough for him to fall. Unfortunately players kept falling for every little hit.

You're taking his comment completely out of context. By saying he could have “broken his leg”, he means that the challenges that Melo did on Robben were not enough to hurt him. He's not referring to the stomp, he's referring to the completely normal challenges that he was doing to take the ball away from Robben, and Robben kept embellishing it. The referee ate it up and frustrated Melo, which caused him to act the way he did.

It was not a clean come back, and the little things you are complaining about – which aren't even true; Robinho didn't dive and was routinely targeted by the Dutch defense and the referee didn't call the fouls, and the handballs were accidental – do not nearly mean this is “thug football”. On the contrary, if you noticed your team impeding play, diving and taking advantage of poor officiating, you'd sooner say your team was playing dirtier.

Of course, this is only because you interpret the game as you want to, not as it is. Just like you misinterpreted Melo's comment.

one comment I kinda miss here,

both Brazil and the Netherlands have been known for attacking attractive playing, that the world loves so much, and then usually get kicked out of the cup by some team that tries to win by only playing on defense and getting the good players out of the match by kicking their legs.

Around the 90's Brazil tried another tactic: go with what everybody else does, put a lot of players on defense, rely on a few creative attackers, and win the cup. It worked.

When you would ask experts, a long time before the WC started, who would win, the Dutch was never mentioned. When asked why, they said “oh they have a great team, but somehow they always lose”.

Right now the Dutch are trying the same as Brasilia. Go for the result. Don't play for attractiveness, but play to win.

The game could have gone either side (and as a Dutchie myself I didnt belief in the Netherlands after the first half), but I am happy we are on our way to the first WC win ever.

About the referee: first half I clearly believed he liked Brasilians better. After the match, I think he was just a very bad referee who agitated both teams.

I just wish both Dutch and Brasil would have made the finals. I like Brasilians and Brasilian footbal. Now maybe we will make the finals and beat that other old opponent of us: the germans

We expected Brazil Team to win and march towards semifinals. But the Netherlands team played well and took the game away from Brazil. Best of luck for the next world cup to our favourite team Brazil.
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Common. That was clearly Brazil dominance up until the own goal. Not even the Dutch themselves thought they could have won. It was luck, or lack of it for that matter.

Holland didn't win this game, Brazil lost it. And, I have reason to believe it's partly due to poor refereeing, and partly due to a lack of drive/motivation that each player should have for wearing the Brazilian jersey. They didn't even try to make a come back. I personally don't care if we had better players that we could have used, any Brazilian on that team should have a drive to win, and they didn't show that when they were losing.

Uhm don't know where you live but in the region of Rotterdam every one was convinced Holland would lose:)

Fifa declared that the so called “own” goal was actually made by Sneijder. So uhm there goes your argument, maybe this maybe that doesn't change anything about the fact that losing heart like that when a game turns bad, is quite ugly in itself. Like boys who losing their toys:). Seems like Brazilians can't cope with lose.

I think the dutch team was playing ugly football all throughout the game, especially in the first half. They were working on killing the game even when they were losing, and they were trying to make Brazilians lose their temper, by simulating and being obviously physically agressive since the beginning of the game. Robben was simulating a lot, the foul they scored the first goal from was not even a foul, he wasn't touched at all, i saw the game again today. Besides, they started the ball fast, very typical, they did the same with slovakia for their second goal; they take advantage of someone's distraction and start it fast. The corner kick Robben lost next to the corner spot was also a malicious try to distract Brazilians and play an easy ball.
But to be fair, Brazilians sucked at the second half, they didn't play, they were agressive, Melo's act on Robben is completely nasty, and they didn't fight to win.
Still, I think the game was an ugly one, thanks to the smart dutch killing-the-game skills,.

Talking about dumb comments and to be well informed….. Go on the internet and have a second, closer look (without “polarising glasses”) at the two previous clashes – 1994 & 1998 – between Brazil and Holland, contemplate on your own phrasing “Brazil is superior to Europeans you ignoramus”, humbly apologize for your comments and refrain from such “Melo like”-comments in the future. Yes, Brazil is truly a great – if not the greatest – soccer nation in the world. However, Melo's action as well as your comments are only making Brazils rich football history poorer. I think you should take example from your fellow countrymen (Gomez, Kaka and others) who – being truly great sportsmen – fully – and without whining – admitted that Holland in the end just deserved to win the game….. Kind regards, “Amore fati”

While I understand your point of view from a fanatical aspect, I see in your rejoicing some respect for Brazil's loss. Since what is done cannot be undone, only God can heal the pain that I feel for Brazil…

That's what I suspected from a first glance. Still haven't seen the replay though.

The Dutch killed the game, and for some reason that was enough for Brazil to fall on its side and die. Where was the motivation to come back and win? Drove me insane to watch.

That was ridiculously ugly though, and I don't think I can respect Holland's current team after that.

My argument wasn't even that it was an own goal (although Melo clearly headed it in), just that it was incredibly lucky, or unlucky.

So uhm there goes your argument.

Yes, it would be like brazil nuts without the Brazil. It would just be nuts!

I am a european and I think the Brazilians were a class above the Dutch. It could easily have been 3 or 4 nil after the first half. Brazil opened them up like they were just an average side. The europeans are getting the job done but it seemed they had help in this case from the referee. Holland's only chances came from long range set pieces. And please watch the push on the back of Kaka near the end again.

I wouldn't say Holland deserved to win the game. That is like saying someone deserved to win the lottery. I think Brazil are and were the better team. They outclassed Holland in the first half only scoring 1 goal when they could have had 3 or 4. In the second half the game was dirty and holland scored from two long range set pieces. Apart from those two occasions they did not look at all like scoring whereas Brazil had many chances.

So if you think Holland “deserved” to win, then I think you should buy a lottery ticket.

Were you watching the same game? Brazil walked through the tight defence of Holland like a hot knife through butter. And that was early on in the match. It could have been 3 or 4 nil by half time. Holland made no chances and in the end they had a long range free kick and a corner. On the other hand Brazil actually made chances.

Wow, I can't believe the result after watching the game twice I still think I was watching a different game to that which the referee was watching. I mean when the linesman is in the opposite half to a decision where the referee is right in line with the players and he looks to the linesman to make a call, I think there is some sort of big conceptual problem there.

Brazil were in a different class to the Netherlands but they were eventually harrassed and frustrated out of the game. It was a real display of anti football that only Holland fans or people with money bet on them would enjoy. It was like watching Serena Williams play against female tennis players and outpowering them with her Mike Tyson like muscles.

I am a Brazil fan but have always had Holland as a favourite team. I didn't like to see the cynical fouling from the Netherlands. In past world cups they used to play great tactical matches with skill not fouls. This time they didn't have any shots on goal or anything and seemed pretty clueless up front. Van Persie tripped on his own feet when he got near the goal! Their only chances were on long range set pieces. They were lucky with the first goal and the second goal was also just a defensive mistake at the near post. Brazil were napping and the glancing header at the near post was then headed by the shortest man in the dutch team. Brazil totally outclassed them and their only tactic was to niggle away at the Brazilians and the referee allowed it. The brazilians got frustrated and showed it.

I think everyone should watch the push in the back on Kaka again, near the end of the match.

As for the referee and linesmen, well, I can only hope they are not involved again in this world cup. They were dreadful.

This team were so strong as a team that when they collapsed the whole team collapsed and nobody could get them up after the 2nd goal.

Better for Brazil to lose this time round so that they can come back better in Brazil 2014 to win and win in style like how Brazil should win.

Sad to see the majority of people commenting with such tunnelvision and non-objective views. Seriously, Holland was never a low-profile opponent for Brazil or any other country in the world for that matter.

The history of the dutch in football, regardless of winning/losing official tournaments, is one of the biggest in football history. This small country surrounded by other BIGGER nations is always able to put their stamp in the world of football (european leagues, international players, football schools etc). They contribute on many levels in this industry.

They even have had big influence on football which also reached Brazil years ago. So it stings me that fellow Brazilians show the arrogance and bitter comments i read (filled with negativity & dis-respect to the dutch). Brazil & The Netherlands should respect each other like they have always done before but i noticed many bitter comments towards the Dutch while they deserve it completely.

Even the statistics between these two countries show (FACT) they match up. This is our own fault, we should have been able to prevent them from scoring but we didn't.. it's almost as if we want to believe it's destined we should have won anyway only due being able to won the cup 5 times.. ridicilous. Just as ridicious that we as fans demand or already decided we are the best while the match isn't even played.

if the orange team think they bit brazil because they are beter then them they get tha wrong i hop they enter the field on the semi final with the mentality that they are superiur over confident then we wil see blieve it or not if brazil is n 1 in the world thats becaus they deserve it but no one is perfect two ball two gool no contre atack or actin that realy deserve our atention and now evry body is opning his mouth to mutch aginst brazil the truth is that every one is happy becaus brazil like gilberto silva say evry budy is aginst brazil viav brazil for ever mohamed

Good point Mohamed. We are warned now not to make the same mistake Brazil did against the Dutch.
(Or am I mistaken in the idea that Brazil was mentally already in the finals against Argentina and Holland was just another hurdle to take? – despite their track record against Brazil (3-2) and their current place in the FIFA (4) list? )
And no, I'm not gloating, but a reaction like yours just shows you're not taking your loss very well.
The Dutch were the world champion playing attractive fooball and getting kicked out against a boring playing team. I know what it feels like, it is frustating! Still, Brazil got 1 goal in, Holland 2, which makes them the better team in this particular match.

Well the game is about winning , not about having the highest level of skill. But you make one big mistake by underestimating the dutch players skill because they are all top players wanted by the best clubs in the world : Barcelona , Madrid , Manchester , Liverpool etc etc etc. Your arrogance has made you a double loser . I have seen a lot of arrogant brasilian people on tv quoting before the match that Holland was nothing , not even a team to respect . This kind of arrogance made you fall its a way of life almost . Keep on putting your chest out in your favela but dont forget to dodge the bullets. Holland a country as small as Sao Paulo has beaten you . A people of only 16 million . We are very smart pirates , we do not fear arrogance , we CRUSH it.

“I am a Brazil fan but have always had Holland as a favourite team. I didn't like to see the cynical fouling from the Netherlands. In past world cups they used to play great tactical matches with skill not fouls.”

I cannot agree with you more. I always adored the Dutch team and considered them the Brazil of Europe, but then they played that ridiculously dirty game…

All I know is, we cannot fail in 4 years time.

I think the most important person the brazil team needs is a psychologist not a coach.
They all know how to play football but not show character and play as a team. How can a team from a country which has won 5 world cups and passionate about soccer whinge at the referee all the time and commit so many fouls. They should focus on playing and showing opponents how to play instead of complaining and foulling. Any brazillian coach should realise they are always going to have great names in their team like Kaka but it does not mean these players should play in the team always even when they are not 100% fit ( same with ronaldo in 2006) . Brazil needs a coach like Montari to make decisions and play their natural game with character. They need more counselling sessions to play as a team when they are down and not soccer sessions.
Argentina made the same mistake ( all south american teams are the same) , they could not come out of the offside trap germany planned and got so frustrated that even after playing a good first half lost by 4 goals. Any south american team can be beaten using the offside trap. The europeans are experts in the tactics and germany proved it. South american teams love to play close to the goal and with a offside trap you are forced to shoot from outside the box and argentina had no luck which lead to all the frustration towards the end. Brazillian players do not talk to each other looks like and wait for the 90 mins to get over in every match they play. Some serious counselling is required for the future teams about playing ( winning or losing) as a team and showing their famous game to other teams.

van bommel should ve received a red card, since you're watching closely, see how many hard bad tackles he did from behind when brazil was running on goal..this game was pathetic

Van bommel is the dirtiest player i ever seen, he should ve received a red card but anyway it's all gone now and brazil lost, netherland played a dirty game

and holland could have scored 4 or 5 in the 2nd half no one deserves to win, holland won though

seems like you can't take a loss, fact is you lost the entire team went to hell

yea apparently every goal brazil scores is the most amazing feat ever and every goal the opponent scores is “stupid” just like according to robinho

“Melo after the match said he was sorry for the elimination, but not the red card, blaming the match official.”

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You may now proceed tp ban him from football for a year. Despicable character needs to learn some respect. So that's what they still teach at Juve? Figures, nothing changes. Especially not if you let the Italians win a WC with it.

Well, hearing this, Brazil got what was coming to them. Have fun swallowing defeat.

Oranje and Robben will play the beautiful game of football, not masked cagefighting and complaining about dives which are clear fouls.

Agreed. vBommel was indeed going for his yellow at the end, since it didn't matter anymore anyway (he had no yellow to worry about). He should have deserved one too at the end, but he would have stopped fouling like that as soon as he got the yellow, so no red as joe suggested in the next comment. It wouldn't have made a difference anyway.

Diving and theatrics was going on on both sides, as it always is. I also saw a Brazilian player kick on of our players in the nuts after the ball was gone, the referee missed it, but that could have easily been another red, or at the least a yellow. The referee was actually rather lenient towards both sides at the end cause I remember Sneijder for example getting a redcard for clapping in front of a referee once at Inter. The kind of discontempt some of the Brazilians showed towards the referee could have easily earned them a yellow in the various European leagues and competitions, seen it plenty of times.

You might actually be pretty right about that jealousy thing. But at least we have good reason to be a little jalous. We deserve a WC, at least 1. We've come from further behind (only 17 million population) and earned our place in football history more than any other team out there that hasn't won a WC yet.

The focus and determination on winning this WC at any cost has never been so high before (Robben used risky accelerated methods to regain his fitness after his hamstring injury to name just one example, at a risk to his body).

Exactly, Brazilian fans should realize that Robben's footballheart is as big as Cesar. If they can feel with Cesar's pain than they should realize that Robben has had much more pain and hard work just to even get to play at this stage now (recovering from that hamstring injury). When he finally made his appearance for Oranje in the WC and had his shot on the post, he was as happy as Cesar was sad.

They should not disrespect a player just because that player hurt their team, I saw more dives and theatrics from other players, on both sides. Robben was fouled again and again, they couldn't handle him and they had expected to be able to injure him, that strategy was clear from the start (on vPersie as well). That's allright, playing it rough is part of the game, but then don't go start complaining when the ref steps in and stops your Italian styled cheating and vBommel and Sneijder try to use a little of your own tricks against you.

So the push on Kaka near the end of the match is different according to you than the push on vPersie early in the game?

Can you explain to me what the difference is? Other than you not liking vPersie, so saying he dives is not an argument. You could argue the push on vPersie was lighter than the push on Kaka but I'd like to see some video evidence of that (I already watched the replays, but perhaps you can point out to me what I'm apparently failing to see).

I'd call them both semi-dives (they both go down way too easily). A full dive (100% yellowcard worthy) is what vdWiel did, no contact at all.

Now if you want to talk about bad refereeing, why aren't you complaining about the ref who allowed Fabiano's handball goal? Or are you really still telling yourself that that was his shoulder? Don't measure with 2 different instruments, it doesn't work well.

“most of the end passes were either mispasses or sent to a player without space…or unneccessarily lost possession…..they played without space or width…..whenever the ball reached near the penalty box, it looked as if our players were in the midst of a big big crowd..there was no tactical game plan….”

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You know, that tends to happen when faced with a defence that is doing their positioning well.

“what our team lacked in such situation was good dribblers”

Now suddenly Kaka and Robinho aren't good enough dribblers anymore.

“who could have easily cut into the box & went behind the defenders…”

Of course they can, easy, it's just Heitinga, Ooijer van Bommel and de Jong they have to go through, they're not like our demi-gods.

Heitinga hasn't stopped Drogba from scoring like our Lucio this year, never seen that happen, so it must not have happened right?

deJong wasn't pitbull nr.1 in any decent club like our super Silva.

Ooijer, replacement for the already poor Mathijssen? Who the hell is he, no way he can stop our Fabiano, way too old and slow, it must be Fabiano that is at fault for not scoring. No way experience and wisdom are enough to beat a demi-god. If we had used any of our other demi-gods that WERE in form, we would have walsed all over them 3-0 or 4-0.

Mark van Bommel isn't captain of a Champions League finalist like our Melo.

Surely Holland's defence is full of holes unlike ours that is the best in the world and therefore surely must be untouchable, especially not by the likes of one little dwarf called Sneijder and a crybaby glassman like Robben. They only had weak opponents, so that's why they let in so few during qualifying, when we're up against them, we'll punish them for those mistakes in the back…the center is weak.

Tip for Uruguay, attack Holland through the center, they have a weak defence. You can dribble right through, even I could do it.

Don't they ban players for intentionally trying to injure players like that? I think Melo should be banned for a few matches at least.

This is NOT football. Trying to injure a dangerous player is the most disgusting thing in football. Let them play and play clean defence. You can still be tough and physical, but it has to be clean. Samuel, Lucio, Maicon and Zanetti embodied that way of defending this year at Inter. Too bad they couldn't teach that too Bastos, Silva, Alves and Melo.

In other words, I didn't see them aiming specificly for previous injured areas the way Melo did. That was just so low. If one of our players had done that on for example, was it Kaka's thighmuscle where he was injured? Anyway, if one of our players had done that to one of Kaka's previous injuries (if he was only just returning) the Brazilian fans would have cried “murder” (I'm not that familiar with the English expression but I hope you get what I mean).

After such a disaster from the Brazilian squad, You will need a coach who knows good sports psychology! You just cannot win a fight when you are more nervous than your adversary! Ths is just-common sense; it is not wise to talk about Scolari for a coach for neither Brazil nor Portugal; Dunga will be replaced! If a player plays in the way that the Brazilian squad played, all you will get are: Yellow cards, red cards, and expulsion! You will a total revolution for Brazil–mental, a few new players, change of coach, and classes in abnormal psychology for the squad. Brazil loss was because of bad temper from the squad. A 5-time champion team must exhibit good sportsmanship for other teams to see the example!

Your statement is really hilarious! At least, I can laugh at that for four years to come!

Let's hope that our sound and good judgements for Brazil will get the people who can influence change in the squad! If you objectively watched the Brazil vs. Holland, the Holland squad committed 20 fouls on Brazil; Brazil committed 10 fouls on Holland; these are personal-observatory facts! Brazil had 8 corner-kicks but failed to capitalize on that; Holland only had 1 corner-kick and they scored! Brazil lost the game because of bad temper from: Michel Bastos, Juan, and Felipe Melo. The solution for the next long and painful four years is: Replace the coach for another coach who must make good-sportsmanships number 1–Bring a few new Players to the squad–Have a class in sports psychology in which the mental aspect of the game will be respected as to leading to good sportsmanships! Brazil, I believe, have thousands of superstars and many tournaments where they can select the finest of soccer players. The legacy of a 5-time champion team cannot continue the way it is NOW!

dive dive dive!!!

I indeed bought a lottery ticket and guess what….., I won (just kidding). Please bear in mind that it were Brazil's own players who – not being bad losers as most people on this site who are supporting the Brazilian team – stated that Holland deserved to win the game. As – apart from the fact that Brazil is indeed a great if not the greatest soccer nation – we will never come to the same understanding, I will leave you with some quotes of experts in the field of soccer to contemplate upon:

“Success is no accident. It is hard work, perseverance, learning, studying, sacrifice and most of all, love of what you are doing or learning to do.” Pele

“There are no right or wrong, or fair results. There's just the final score.” Otto Rehhagel

“Football is war.” Rinus Michels

“Soccer is a game for 22 people that run around, play the ball, and one referee who makes a slew of mistakes, and in the end Germany always wins.” Gary Lineker

“If I wanted you to understand it, I would have explained it better.” Johan Cruyff

“'It's the World Cup' 'What's that?' 'Two civilized nations fighting over a ball' 'You must be joking'” Geko, from the movie The Cup

First: We hope that our positive messages will get to the right people to influence the change in any Brazilian squad. Second: The squad must learn something of past-great players like: Socrates, Pele, Carlos Alberto, Ronaldo (who should be even a substitute in 2014), Ronaldinho (who can still play), Fabiano (who is now in the squad). Third: Let's wish the best luck for the other teams in the World Cup 2010!

Melo did deserve the red for stomping on Robbens leg because that is bad play, but sometimes robben overreacted and dived a couple of times, i saw the replays closely, but melo still deserved the red for the disgusting challenge, and dunga sucks brazil has way better players than the ones selected for the world cup

Well how many peeps a country has is not a point. You only can select 23 players. So maby Brasil has more talented players as the Dutch but we can,t use them all. Its even more difficult because selecting your team is more difficult when you have more players. But congratulation Holland. I,m always hated the playstyle Dunga used(Euro style). Maby we learned our lesson. And there is anotehr point you all forget. The pressure on the Brasilien team is far beyond limits. I think no soccer team in the world could even play a match under these circumstances. I have respect for the new trainer for Brasil for 2014. You can only lose.

Well these things happends. Also Elano was kicked out of this tournement. Don,t think Brasil is a nasty team. Melo was out of control after the mistake with the 2 Dutch goals. And also the Dutch has some nasty players. I saw on television a very nasty faul from Nigel de Jong on a US player in a friendly match. That US player broke his leg. I mean every team in this world sometimes make nasty fauls. Okies we lost and i have no problems with that so congratulations team orange that you find the way to win the psychological battle. I,m glad we lost so Dunga is gone. And now we can work for a reveance. Thats soccer.

You are so wrong. We respect all nations. Its some fools on television you see that make you blind. All the other country,s alway,s tells us Brasil is the best and take the underdog rule. All peeps in Brasil knew that this team didn,t play well and also hated the way Dunga select players and the kind of style he used. Ofcourse when you ask a Brasilien who would win he tells you Brasil. Don,t you do the same in your country as a fan. Its normal and that has nothing to do with arrogance. Its the world and nasty multionationals like NIKE that make you blind and is a pain in the arse for Brasil. 4 years ago Nike made the selection for Brasil with only EURO-competion Brasilien players.
Remember its harder to stay on top because you got alot bad influence from other nations then to reach the top.

hey,,,,robben is fucking around man,,,,,''robbal'' if robben want to help his team to win last match….pls you should to change your mind,,,,cause have sth wrong with your mind,,,,

this worldcup was very terrible until now,,,,may next time we should to training for some footballer ''how to play well and fairplay''and the man look after the match,,,,
SPAIN IS NUMBER ONE,,,,I LOVE NETHERLAND VERY MUCH,,,BUT THEY PLAYED NO FAIR,,,SHOULD TO CHANGE,,,,FAIRPLAY IS WILL BE,,,,,

I think the refree was spoiled this game..he has make the brazillian to going slowdown..

.i am not a brazillian..but i think,WITHOUT THIS JAPANESE REFREE,Brazil can playing better and not emotional

I think the refree was spoiled this game..he has make the brazillian to going slowdown..

.i am not a brazillian..but i think,WITHOUT THIS JAPANESE REFREE,Brazil can playing better and not emotional

I think the refree was spoiled this game..he has make the brazillian to going slowdown..

.i am not a brazillian..but i think,WITHOUT THIS JAPANESE REFREE,Brazil can playing better and not emotional

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I don't think that the Dutches should make any further comments regarding how ugly Brazil played…… they should how DIRTY they play when they played against Spain in the final. Even the Dutch legend Johan Cruyff said that he completely detested their game. so much for playing physical football eh?